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    The really grievously unforgivable aspect of this is that it is Child Abuse.

    Child Abuse that ought to have every parent apoplectic with anger and vocal with complaint that this has been done to their children.

    Especially their boy children.

    Yet the media have been mostly silent, and the authorities mostly complicit in this grotesque calumny.

    I refer not to the actions of one deranged fruitcake, bad though that may be, but the systematic, institutionalised, pre-planed, legal, officially approved abuse of the politicised educational apparatchik, en masse.

    Why is it so bad, and why should we be so upset?

    Because children can’t fight back or resist or even realise what is being done to them, or how they are being cynically used as helpless canon fodder in a war of ruthless pursuit of power that is quite happy to squander and throwaway their futures.

    They cannot defend themselves, we must defend them.

    This is a vivid demonstration of the foul creed that the ‘end justifies the means’, and this is an example of it in action.
    One day they will realise what has happened to them, and there is likely to be a terrible reckoning, for when you destabilise society in such an egregious way the precise results are likely to be difficult to predict.

    How did we arrive at this grim pass so suddenly, one may well ask?
    The truth is that in reality, it’s not been sudden at all, but is the result of the
    ” Long march through the institutions ” undertaken by assorted forces of the politically left. Only now is a critical mass being reached, that could be described in a more modern turn of phrase as the ” boiling a frog ” principle.

    But then there should be little overall surprise here, since
    much of the blame may be laid at the door of of a particular group of persons.
    Who have a name.
    F-E-M-I-N-I-S-T-S.
    Is there perhaps the teensiest clue in that word of where these people are coming from and what their agenda is – waddiya The really grievously unforgivable aspect of this is that it is Child Abuse.

    Child Abuse that ought to have every parent apoplectic with anger and vocal with complaint that this has been done to their children.

    Especially their boy children.

    Yet the media have been mostly silent, and the authorities mostly complicit in this grotesque calumny.

    I refer not to the actions of one deranged fruitcake, bad though that may be, but the systematic, institutionalised, pre-planed, legal, officially approved abuse of the politicised educational apparatchik, en masse.

    Why is it so bad, and why should we be so upset?

    Because children can’t fight back or resist or even realise what is being done to them, or how they are being cynically used as helpless canon fodder in a war of ruthless pursuit of power that is quite happy to squander and throwaway their futures.

    They cannot defend themselves, we must defend them.

    This is a vivid demonstration of the foul creed that the ‘end justifies the means’, and this is an example of it in action.
    One day they will realise what has happened to them, and there is likely to be a terrible reckoning, for when you destabilise society in such an egregious way the precise results are likely to be difficult to predict.

    How did we arrive at this grim pass so suddenly, one may well ask?
    The truth is that in reality, it’s not been sudden at all, but is the result of the
    ” Long march through the institutions ” undertaken by assorted forces of the politically left. Only now is a critical mass being reached, that could be described in a more modern turn of phrase as the ” boiling a frog ” principle.

    But then there should be little overall surprise here, since
    much of the blame may be laid at the door of of a particular group of persons.
    Who have a name.
    F-E-M-I-N-I-S-T-S.
    Is there perhaps the teensiest clue in that word of where these people are coming from and what their agenda is – waddiya think ?

    1. Herbert Purdy buy nolvadex amazon

      This is what I think FWIW. Yes, this is child-abuse – all in the name of women’s ‘rights’. It’s foul and disgusting.

      As to why nothing is being done about it? What can be done? It’s the Boiling Frog syndrome isn’t it? put a frog in boiling water and it will jump out. Put it in cold water and slowly heat it up, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death. That is why what is happening is going without without resistance.

      This is what feminism does. It works slowly and silently, like yeast in bread, relentlessly changing society to its Marxist dogma by infiltration of the key organs of state and society. Marx was bent on overturning the father’s rule in the family, as the head of the family, so the state could step in and take over people’s lives, and take the children into common control. That is the way communists ensure the next generation becomes conformed to its dogma and is ‘politically correct’.

      These boys’ fathers have had their natural authority taken away from them by back-door feminist social re-engineering (the patriarchy feminists drone on about really means the ‘rule of the father’ that is what they are actually ideologically opposed to). Fathers have been emasculated and removed from the social scene (custody in divorce etc.) and institutionally vilified as a social entity at the hands of feminists who have colonised the places of power in our entire social system.

      I made the point about fathers in my blog about the Rotherham abuse case (buy aromasin and nolvadex) where it was the absence of fathers that was the key reason why those girls were off the rails (and they were: they were players, not passive victims), and it is the absence of fathers’ intervention inn their son’s education that is causing these boys to be abused and conditioned to favour feminism. (Just look at Yvette Cooper’s utterances here buy arimidex nolvadex. This is the Shadow Home Secretary speaking – she might get power next May at the general election)

      Can you imagine only a few years ago? Fathers would have been banging the desk of the head teacher demanding to know what the hell was going in with their son’s education. Can you imagine that being tolerated by ‘the authorities’ these days? This is the acid test, it seems to me.

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    I found Christina Hoff Sommers book “The War Against Boys” very useful for showing how the whole education system has been feminised in a way which disadvantages and discourages boys. Her research is based on the States and I think things are even more extreme over there – but there is loads from it which can be very usefully learnt and applied. It seems to be the case that in the US ways of learning which suit boys really well are actively discouraged and prevented and I am sure that happens a lot here too.

    One other thought – I was involved in a small research project which examined whether there was a relationship between boy’s perceptions about gender roles and their motivation to do well in school. We found that there was a relationship – those boys who had a more of a traditional male breadwinner concept were more interested and motivated in their work. There can be all kinds of explanations for this relationship – none of which necessarily indicate any causality between attitudes and achievement – but I do wonder how the whole western cultural ethos (i.e. feminist) – ‘women can manage without men’, ‘we prefer to do things for ourselves’ etc etc (none of which is actually true – BSA shows most women WANT men to be the main breadwinner) anyway to what extent that whole feminist way of thinking is simply de-motivating males to attain and if we want boys to do well we need to look at these underlying issues.

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    Thank you for this. What is going on in education is an abomination, and the comment you quote from the respondent to the Times Higher Education discussion is chilling.

    This is a very, very serious situation and I have been saying for some time that there is now a desperate need for single-sex schools.

    We need boys’ schools with male teachers, right from early years to sixth form. And we need them pdq before it is all too late. I am so angry about this.

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      Out of interest, at what point would the (well-balanced(?), socio/sexually-aware(?) young men who leave your preferred school take their place in mainstream society? Should they work in men-only industries, study in single-sex colleges, drink in gentlemen’s bars, travel in segregated transport . . . ?
      (Also, all males are not ‘masculine’ individuals who love maths/science and
      aspire to a lifetime in engineering, whilst all females are not ‘feminine’
      touchy-feely carers who want to be homemakers.)
      More male teachers, yes, but not exclusively for male pupils.

      1. Herbert Purdy order nolvadex

        Not sure, where you’re coming from with this, but I infer from what you say that maybe you believe that boys might not be well balanced, socio/sexually aware etc. by being educated in boys only schools? And, possibly be unable to take their place in mainstream society?

        If that’s so, I would beg to disagree. I suggest that they could be better balanced as boys, soon to be men, by being mentored by men teachers, rather than develop in what amounts to a highly (almost totally) feminised school environment in which their boyish boisterousness is pathologised as ‘a problem’ by an essentially female culture.

        I am sure their socio/sexual development would be better facilitated in a male environment: one in which it could take its balanced place in their overall passage into adulthood – and all under the mentoring of mature men.

        As to working your comments about men-only industries, socialising in male spaces, or travelling on segregated transport, I think perhaps you are taking things a bit far.

        Having said that, I do believe the invasion of male social spaces by women – just because they can, because the social atmosphere allows it (indeed encourages it) – has gone far too far. IMHO, if you invade someone’s space, forcing them to accept a situation they may not want, they will do one of two things: either resist, causing friction, or withdraw, causing alienation. Equality is not women being everywhere (anymore than men being everywhere), but that is the direction of travel.

        And, in the work environment, there are certain work areas that are traditionally male, as there are those that are traditionally female. I see no reason why that should not be. Again, the drive to have as many women as men in what amounts to essentially men’s work (by choice or aptitude, it doesn’t really matter why) is nothing less than an attempt at social engineering, which is changing things for the sake of changing things. Why does it matter that we have, say, as many women engineers as men? And, what about nursing: a steadfastly female profession that men are not hammering on the door to enter? (And, of course, it is obvious that there are no hard and fast demarcations. Men and women share a great deal of common characteristics and that will find its expression in their occupations.)

        I sense that a lot of what you are saying is based on views whose underlying premises are themselves open to dispute. For example your final assertion. In the current, unbalanced situation that prevails in education today – and given what I truly believe is a major crisis in boys’ education – urgent measures need to be taken to protect our boys. They are the men of the future, and I submit men need to be men. You might disagree.

        And, I wonder, given the enormous difficulties that are undoubtedly preventing men entering teaching, how you feel more men teachers are going to be able to enter teaching? And, if they did, how would they be able to operate in the highly feminised profession that teaching has now become? Do you really think that would solve the crisis in boys’ education? For my part, I don’t thing it would.

        And, finally, I have to say I think there is also a very good case to be made for men-only colleges and universities too. Especially in the light of the fact that they too are now heavily feminised, and the toxic culture of campuses today in which young men are highly exposed to false allegations of rape and sexual assault. That, too is a major worry.

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          Goodness! What a considered and detailed response. Thanks very much for doing me the favour of dealing with my comments with such rigour and in such double-quick time.
          I realise we are coming from different angles on this and we would probably never be able to agree. Personally, I feel I benefited so much from a mixed education at primary, secondary and tertiary level, leading to a relaxed attitude to the company of women, much commented on by my single-sex-educated associates. School, for me, should be so much more than aiming to get the highest grades in everything.
          The MHR view of boys education (depicted by your good self) seems to be that, if we ‘masculinised’ it, somehow or other, boys who are lost, feminised, boisterous, anti-social etc. will become first class citizens, having been allowed to take end-of-year exams in subjects such as Maths and Science and then all will become engineers.
          For me, equal treatment should be throughout life. If we make it look like boys in education are a ‘problem’ (and give the impression that girls are not) we play into feminist hands.
          I repeat, I am so grateful for your feedback – even though we are a few poles apart!

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            Surely the corollary of all-boys schools is all-girls schools. A recipe for a further polarisation of the sexes? Are you sure it’s the co-ed system that is failing boys, or the way it is administered? Who says ‘the primary purpose of education is academic education’ and what does that mean anyway? Don’t most people who have ever gone to school actually NOT see themselves as ‘academic’? By the way, I’m not recommending any form of indoctrination socio/sexually, just an adjustment and accommodation to the opposite sex at a crucial time in your life. Improve the co-ed system, please. Even for a MHR-follower like me, the idea of being cooped-up with nothing but male company during daylight hours fills me full of dread.

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            There was a time only a few decades ago when it was perfectly normal to have single sex schools. I went to a boys grammar school then, later to a co-educational grammar school. (There was also a girl’s grammar school, all in the same small town.) And there is no doubt that the standard of academic achievement was higher in the single sex schools than in the co-ed one.

            During the 1970s and 80s, academic standards in education went through the floor, largely because of left-wing interventions in what was called at the time an ‘egalitarian wilderness’ . If we look at Rick’s graph we can a parallel with this in the marked emergence of better academic achievement in girls. I’m not saying there is causation here, neither am I even implying statistical correlation, but I am saying I think we can join some dots from common sense and see that this was a time when co-education became the ‘received wisdom’ of educationalists, who, of course, were almost certainly the products of their postmodern, feminist/liberationist time.

            Now, you might argue that academic achievement isn’t the only outcome of education. Indeed, some might argue that it has nothing to do with education. (Remember Einstein’s comment ‘Education is what a man is left with when he has forgotten everything he has ever learned’.) However, I suggest that it is important, indeed vitally so in the current social structure, where, thanks to Tony Blair’s triple policy, ‘Education, education, education’, which really meant ‘get young people into universities and colleges, rather than pay them unemployment benefit, having an academic qualification became de rigeur. (This created an interesting further divide between the privileged and the underprivileged, which is the antithesis of what Labour stood for, but that’s another story.)

            Franky, I take serious issue with those who think that sex co-education as a means of achieving socialisation is as important as academic knowledge, and even a valid means of achieving better relationships between men and women. I would actually disagree with it as a fundamental premise anyway, but even more so in the light of what we can see before us: that boys are being disadvantaged in our schools (and, I would argue, our colleges and universities – although for other reasons, such as the incredibly tense and dangerous fostering of anti-male cultures on campus such as the rape culture. It is a current cultural epithet that young men can be ‘a bit rapey’ for example.)

            I confront head on the notion that socialisation can only be achieved by mixing boys and girls at school, Apart from the fact that socialisation of boys with boys, and girls with girls, is also socialisation, I happen to believe that socialisation happens outside of school anyway, and it comes from within the family – the true social unit. It is a matter of education, but it doesn’t have to be concomitant with formal education.

            I also argue with the idea that socialisation/social skills = women’s socialisation/social skills. Women do not, as the current culture holds, have the monopoly on relationship skills. They only have a monopoly on women’s particular social skills. And, I see no reason why men should not teach boys socialisation, and social skills apart from any female presence or input.

            Therefore, I think we need to challenge some assumptions about this, especially in the light of what I believe is a pressing need now – today – that boys are being discriminated against – indeed being abused, especially in their human rights, not least to the right to expect they will be fairly and properly equipped for adult life, which is far more than their ability to relate to the opposite sex. We can ask questions about how to achieve this, but we must beware of the basic error of logic – the begged question – one whose underlying premise is itself open to question.

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            Thanks, Herbert. It’s clear we’re never going to agree about this, so maybe we should call a truce. As far as I know, there are still a number of boys’ schools about (although it sounds like you wouldn’t recommend boarding) for those who feel strongly about this. I note that the word ‘I’ features strongly above in your piece, perhaps not surprisingly, but it reveals the importance of choice in education – this ‘I’ would have disliked being at a boys-only school, you would have preferred it. I am not so averse to women that I can’t be in the same room as them; why do we have to separate to gain an advantage?

            The subjects on offer now are much more diverse and ‘I’ think it’s difficult to make comparisons. The world outside didn’t hang around either, so the curriculum has had to adapt. A fantasy past is not helpful (to me) in terms of a helpful future. Males and females have to rub along somehow in society; why not in education?

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